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Karenne
July 12th, 2007, 11:51 PM
Chapter One



The only trouble with getting away from it all was actually getting away from it all.
Six weeks of lazing around on secluded and luxurious Monitor Island, with nothing to do except eat, drink, and lust after the occasional hot-bod sounded like heaven itself. And it was.
For the first three weeks.
But now, with the fifth week done and dusted, the wolf within hungered for the company of my own kind. Werewolves are not, by nature, solitary souls. We tend to live in packs just as much as our animal counterparts.
My pack might now only consist of my twin brother Rhoan, his lover Liander, and my lover Kellen, but I was missing them all something fierce.
Especially Kellen. He’d been here for the first three weeks, and the result had been a deepening and strengthening of our relationship. I might be totally capable of looking after myself, but it was an absolutely delicious sensation to have such a big strong wolf wanting to take care of me. In some ways, he reminded me of an ex. Talon might have been as crazy as a march hare, but he’d also been a wolf who knew what he wanted, and who went to great lengths to get it. Kellen was built in that mode, but he was far more caring than Talon ever could have been. Add to that the fact he was a great lover, and you had an overall package that was nigh on irresistible. At least to this wolf.
Even so, I hadn’t really expected to miss him this much. Not after only a couple of months of being together--and especially considering we’d probably spent more time apart than together in those months. Of course, I knew now that a lot of that separation was due to Quinn, the enigmatic vampire who swore his feelings for me ran deep--even as he used me to achieve his aims of killing the people who had destroyed his lifelong friend and creator. Even now, despite the feelings I had for Kellen, part of me still hungered to be with Quinn. Would probably always hunger to be with him.
Because I had a connection with Quinn that I’d never found with any other man. Not even Kellen.
But Quinn was out of my life for the moment--maybe even permanently--and I couldn’t really regret that. I’d never condoned force in any relationship, and that’s basically what Quinn had done when he’d used his vampire wiles to curb my nature. His methods might have been psychic rather than physical, but in the end, it was the same thing. Anything that forced someone down a path they would not otherwise have taken was abuse, no matter how prettily the situation was wrapped.
What I needed to do was forget him. Just get on with my life, and stop remembering he was ever part of it. Even if the very thought made my soul weep.
But the last two weeks alone had left me with nothing to do except think about the people in my life and the events of the last ten months. In fact, all that I was supposedly here to forget.
I rubbed a hand across tired eyes, then leaned my forearms on the balustrade of the small patio lining the front of my pretty little villa unit.
The breeze coming off the sea was cool, teasing my short hair and sending goose bumps fleeing across my bare flesh. I briefly thought about going inside to grab a shirt, but in the end, I couldn’t be bothered.
I let my gaze roam across the waves, watching the foam hiss over the white sand. It was a peaceful sound, as peaceful as the night itself, which made me wonder what the hell had woken me in the first place.
Certainly there was little noise coming from any of the other villas that lined this half-moon section of beach. Not even the newlyweds were stirring, and they’d been at it non-stop since their arrival five days ago.
And they thought werewolves had stamina.
I smiled and plucked a leaf from the nearby eucalyptus branch that draped over the railing, then flicked the leaf skyward from the stem, watching it twirl all the way to the ground.
What I wanted was to go home. To get on with my life and my job. To spend more time with Kellen. But I had just under a week of vacation left, and while I might be going slowly insane with boredom, I couldn’t just pack up and leave. Rhoan and Liander had given me this holiday as a gift to help me rest and recuperate, and I couldn’t--wouldn’t--hurt their feelings by returning before my time was up.
“Riley.”
My name whispered across the wind--a demand rather than a mere attempt to get my attention.
I straightened quickly, my gaze searching the moonlit night for some sign of the caller. Some hint of where the voice had come from.
A difficult task when it seemed to come from everywhere and yet nowhere at once.
“Riley.”
Again the voice rode the night, stronger than before, and clearly male in its resonance.
It wasn’t a voice that belonged to any of the men who inhabited the five other villas in this small cove. Nor did it belong to any of the staff members who looked after the villas or who worked in the main resort complex one beach over.
But there were three other accommodations scattered across the island, and I hadn’t really had much to do with their guests or employees. But even if it had been one of them, why would they know my name? And why would they be calling me in the dead of the night?
It was odd--and the mere thought of something odd occurring had excitement racing through my veins.
Which was a rather sad statement about just how bored I was. Or perhaps how addicted I’d become to the adrenaline rush of being a guardian. Hell, I’d give away the killing any day, but not the thrill of the chase. The hunt was everything to a wolf, and no matter how long I might have denied it, I was a hunter--every bit as much as my brother.
I studied the night for a moment longer. The wind whispered through the trees, void of any voice but its own. I could sense nothing and no one near, and yet something was. The electric charge of awareness raced across my skin, making the small hairs on my arms stand on end.
I spun on my heel and walked back into my room. I didn’t mind walking around sans clothes, but most of the guests currently on the island were human, and humans tended to get a little antsy about the whole naked thing.
Though up here in Queensland, that attitude was a whole lot less noticeable than down in Victoria. Of course, the weather in my home state often precluded the desire to strip down, simply because the weather was about as predictable as a tiger snake during mating season.
I pulled on a low-cut T-shirt and a baggy pair of shorts, then returned to the patio.
“Riley, come.”
The voice swirled around me, rich and arrogant. A man who used--and probably abused--power. And my wolf soul reacted to the command in that voice, but not in the way I expected. Not fiercely, with anger, but meekly. As if she wanted to do nothing more than tuck her tail between her legs and cower.
And there could be only one reason for that.
The voice belonged to a pack member. And not just any pack member, but the alpha. The wolf who ruled the pack as a whole.
Only the voice didn’t belong to my alpha, the man who had ruled the pack for as long as anyone could remember. I would have recognized the voice of my own grandfather.
So what the hell was going on?
Frowning, I walked down the steps then strode through the trees and out onto the moonlit sand. The wind was sharper out from under the cover of the eucalyptus, and filled with the scent of the sea.
And nothing else. No musky male scent, no hint of wolf. Nothing to suggest there was another soul awake and aware out here on the beach.
A shiver ran down my spine. Maybe I was imagining it. Maybe this was nothing more than a dream, and any minute now I’d wake up and laugh at my own stupidity.
After all, our pack had threatened to kill us both if we ever contacted--let alone went near--any pack members. And not even our mother had dared to contradict that particular order.
Not that I thought she’d tried. Though I had no doubt she loved us, she’d always seemed as relieved as the rest of the pack to see the back of us.
“Riley, come.”
Again the order ran across the night, stronger than before. I closed my eyes, concentrating on the sound, and tried to define just where the voice was coming from.
After a moment, I turned around and padded up the beach. The villas gave way to thicker strands of eucalyptus and acacia trees, the strong scents filling the night.
It didn’t matter. I wasn’t relying on my olfactory senses to track this particular trail, but rather my ‘other’ senses. The senses that were new and somewhat unreliable.
The part of me that could see souls rise.
Of course, seeing--and hearing--the souls of dead people wasn’t a gift I particularly wanted. Hell, I had enough trouble dealing with the living dead without having to worry about the actual dead popping along anytime they pleased.
But as was often the case in my life of late, it seemed I had little choice in the matter. The experimental fertility drug I’d been forcibly given by Talon had not only kicked started some latent psychic abilities, but had given them a little twist, just for the fun of it. Clairvoyance had been one of those latent skills--until recently, anyway. Seeing dead people walk through the shadows was the not-so-tempting twist.
And I was hoping like hell it was the only twist the drug caused. I didn’t want to be like the other half-breeds who’d taken the drug. I didn’t want to gain the ability to shift into any animal or bird form I chose, simply because while such an ability might be a buzz, it came at a price. Every one of the others had lost their ability to retake human form. I might love being a wolf, but I didn’t want to spend the rest of my life in that shape. Or any other shape, for that matter.
Seeing dead people wasn’t that bad by comparison. And until tonight, the dead hadn’t contacted me long range. I’d only seen them close to their bodies. Well, mostly, I thought, shivering as I remembered the lingering, insubstantial wisps in Starr’s bloody arena.
Not that I was entirely sure I was hearing the dead now, but it just seemed odd I couldn’t see or smell anyone else. My senses were wolf-sharp. If someone had been close, I would have known.
I padded along the white sand until I reached the peninsula rocks. The wind here was sharper, the sea rougher, slapping across those rocks and sending white foam flicking skyward. The tide was up, so I’d be getting wet if the voice wanted me to clamber around to the next cove.
I stopped and scanned the horizon. This section of the main island was closest to Lighthouse Island, the largest of the two small islands that sat within swimming distance of Monitor. It housed the Monitor Island Research Center, a joint government and private concern that was investigating the sea life and the reefs. I’d done the tour last week, and had been bored to tears. Sure, reefs were pretty. So were the myriad of fish that lived among them. And we surely had to know why they were all disappearing. But hey, I just couldn’t get all worked up about the science. Wolves are hunters by nature, not conservationists. We usually haven’t the patience for occupations that involve long hours of inactivity.
Awareness tingled across my skin, as sharp as needle stings. Whoever the voice belonged to, he was close.
“Riley, turn around.”
For the first time, memories stirred. I’d known that voice in the past. I turned and studied the trees.
A man stood amongst them. Though at first glance he appeared solid, a more careful study revealed an almost gossamer look to his hands and feet. As if, by the time he got to his extremities, he didn’t have the strength to maintain the illusion of substance.
He was a tall man, rangy in build, with strong arms and blunt features. Not attractive, not ugly, but somewhere in between. But even if he’d been the ugliest spud on the planet, it wouldn’t have mattered, because the sense of authority and power that shone from his grey eyes were all that would ever matter to a wolf.
And this wolf wanted to hunker down before it.
But I wasn’t just wolf, and the other half of my soul bared its teeth and got ready for a fight. I locked my knees and skimmed my gaze up to his hair. Thick and red. Definitely red pack. Definitely my red pack. But who?
As I dropped my gaze to his, recognition stirred again. I knew those eyes, knew the cold superiority behind them. But I’d be damned if I could dredge up a name.
“Why are you calling me?”
Though the question was soft, my voice seemed to echo across the silent night. A tremor ran down my spine, and I wasn’t sure whether it was due to the chill wind hitting my bare arms and legs or the sudden sense of trepidation creeping through my soul.
Amusement sparked briefly in the translucent grey depths. “You do not remember me?”
“Should I have any reason to remember you?”
This time, the amusement reached his thin lips. “I would think you’d remember the wolf who threw you off a mountainside.”
Shock rolled through me. Oh my God...
Blake.
My grandfather’s second-in-command, and the wolf who would have killed us both if he could. The wolf who almost had when he’d thrown me off that cliff. Ostensibly to teach Rhoan a lesson about never back-talking the pack second.
Hate followed the shock, swirling thick and sharp. I clenched my fists, and found myself fighting the sudden urge to punch the cold amusement from his lips. But he wasn’t here, he wasn’t real, and I’d only look like a fool. So I simply said, voice low and venomous, “What right have you got to call me?”
“My right is pack-given.”
“The Jenson pack ceded its rights over me and Rhoan when they kicked us out.”
“Pack rights are never surrendered, no matter what the situation. Once a pack member, always a pack member.”
“You threatened to kill us if you ever saw us again.”
“A statement that still stands.”
“So why the hell are you contacting me? Fuck off and leave me alone. Trust me, I want as little to do with you as you with me.”
I turned on my heel and began to walk back down the beach. Part of me might have been curious as to why he was contacting me, but curiosity didn’t have a hope against old anger and hurt. None of which I wanted to relive in any way.
“You will listen to what I have to say, Riley.”
“Fuck off,” I said, without looking at him. Even as my wolf cowered deep within at my audacity.
“You will stop and listen, young wolf.”
His voice was sharp and powerful, seeming to echo through the trees. I stopped. I couldn’t help it. My very DNA was patterned with the need to obey my alpha. It would take a great deal of strength to disobey and, right now, it seemed I had none.
Even so, I didn’t turn around. Didn’t look at him. “Why the hell should I listen?”
“Because I demand it.”
I snorted softly. “I was never one to listen to demands. You of all people should know that.”
“So very true. And it was one of the reasons you and your brother were ostracized.” Amusement laced his harsh tones. “Your grandfather feared one of you would challenge him.”
Surprise rippled through me and I swung around. He was still in the trees, still in the shadows. Maybe afraid that the wind from the beach would blow him away. “Why would my grandfather fear that? Neither Rhoan nor I were allowed the illusion we were anything more than an inconvenience to our mother and the pack. And inconveniences don’t rule.” Especially if they were female. Or gay.
“You have a long pattern of doing the unexpected, Riley.”
“Yeah, and I have the scars to prove the foolishness of that.”
He chuckled softly. “You never did learn your place.”
Oh, I learned it all right. I just didn’t always cower down like I was supposed to. I thrust my hands on my hips and said impatiently, “As much as I adore reliving old times, it’s fucking cold out. Tell me what you want, or piss off.”
He studied me for a minute, grey eyes abnormally bright in the darkness, his form waving slightly as the wind swirled through the trees.
“The pack needs your help.”
“My help?” My sudden, unbelieving laugh had a cold, ugly sound. “That has to be the joke of the century.”
“There is nothing amusing about the situation, believe me.”
“So why me? There have to be hundreds of other people you could ask.”
Which wasn’t an overstatement. The Jenson pack might be one of the smaller red packs, and it might be the poorer cousin when it came to wealth and land status, but Jenson pack members were to be found in all avenues of government and throughout much of the legal system. I had no doubt those pack members could muster up something--someone--far more influential than me.
Unless, of course, the crisis was of a more personal nature. Despite everything, anxiety pulsed, and I added quickly, “Is mother all right?”
Blake’s smile was thin. “Yes. She sends her love.”
Like hell she did. We were her firstborn and her love for us unquestioned, but once we’d left the pack, contact ceased. Blake might have had pack approval to contact me, but I very much doubted she would have asked for any message to be delivered. She knew how we felt about him. She wouldn’t hurt us that way.
“You can’t sucker me with that sort of shit, Blake. Just get to the point.”
Amusement flared briefly in his eyes. “We have need of your guardian skills.”
Again, surprise rippled through me. “How would you know I was a guardian? And why would you bother keeping track of two outcast and useless pups?”
“We didn’t. It came to my attention during our investigations.”
“Investigations into what?”
He shifted his weight and his form wavered briefly, becoming as insubstantial as a ghost. Which he wasn’t, so how in the hell was he projecting himself?
“One of my granddaughters disappeared four days ago.”
He had a granddaughters? Good lord, that made me feel old. Though in wolf terms, I was still very much a youngster. “Which of your sons was careless enough to lose a daughter?”
It was a cruel thing to say, but I just couldn’t help myself. Blake and his sons had been the banes of our existence growing up--and the reason behind many of the scars Rhoan and I now bore. Of course, if I’d just shut my mouth and bowed down like I was supposed to, things might have been different.
Though I very much doubt it.
His gaze narrowed to thin slits of dangerous grey. “Adrienne is Patrin’s oldest.”
The image of a red wolf with black points came to mind, and my lip curled in response. Patrin was the youngest of Blake’s get--only a few years older than Rhoan and me. To say he delighted in following the family tradition of hassling the half-breeds would be the understatement of the century.
“How old is the daughter?”
“Twenty-three.”
Twenty-three? Meaning he’d been fifteen when he’d sired his first? Randy bastard. I bet daddy had been so proud--especially given the pack’s inherent fertility problems.
“If she’s missing, contact the police. The Directorate doesn’t do missing.”
“You do if there appears to be a pattern to the disappearances. And three others have disappeared the same way as Adrienne, Riley.”
I crossed my arms and tried to ignore the pulse of interest. I didn’t want to get involved with Blake or our pack, because it could only end badly--for me, if not for them. “Still no reason for the Directorate to get involved. There are specialist police units for such things. I’m sure you’ve got contacts that could give you special consideration.”
“Something bad has happened to her. Patrin’s desperate to find her.”
It was on my lips to say something smart--something along the lines of like I’m supposed to care?--but I held back. I understood such desperation, knew it could force you to do anything--including contact an outcast. I’d felt it whenever Rhoan got into trouble, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Not even someone I hated.
“Then contact the Directorate. Give them the information. There’s nothing I can do without the official go-ahead anyway.”
Which was a only a teensy lie. If I was so inclined, I could investigate just about anything. Guardians were the super-cops--the hunter-killers--of the nonhuman world, and we had free rein to investigate whatever we wanted. Though if I did investigate, and did find something, I’d have to report it back to my boss. And full investigation could only go ahead with his official approval.
“All I’m asking you to do is an initial investigation. If you feel there’s nothing the Directorate can do, then I’ll try other sources.”
He sounded altogether too reasonable, and my hackles rose. Blake and reason just didn’t go together--at least according to my memories of the man. “You were ordering me a few moments ago.”
“Perhaps I’m seeing the error of my ways.”
“And perhaps tomorrow they’ll put a woman on Mars.” I shifted from one foot to the other. I wasn’t trusting this new and improved Blake any more than the last one, but it couldn’t hurt to play along. “Why do you think her disappearance is a Directorate matter?”
“Beside Patrin feeling she’s in mortal danger, you mean?”
“Yes.”
“There’s a pattern, as I said.”
Annoyance swirled through me. “So tell me the pattern.”
“For a start, they all vacationed at Monitor Island.”
Is that why he’d contacted me? He’d been investigating the island and discovered my presence? It’d be my luck, that was for sure. “And?”
“And they all disappeared within a week of returning home from the island.”
“Meaning the island might not be the connector.”
“Then there’s the man.”
“Human or nonhuman man?”
“Human. He works on the island, apparently.”
Which wasn’t much of a clue, considering over half the people working on the island were males of the human variety. “What as?”
Blake shrugged, and the movement made his image shimmer. “Adrienne said he worked as a bartender.”
“Blake, there’s at least five bars in this cove alone. It’d be nice if you could pin it down a little.”
“I believe his name might be Jim Denton.”
“So she danced with this Jim Denton?”
He hesitated, and annoyance flashed in his eyes. “I believe so.”
I restrained a sudden smile. So Adrienne wasn’t telling daddy and granddaddy everything. Good for her. Though I was surprised she’d gone against pack law and danced wit a human. But maybe that was the whole point. “And the others?”
“I’ve talked to one other family. They also mentioned their daughter meeting a man who worked on the island.”
“Meeting? What about bedding?”
“That I can’t say. But probably.”
“And the women were all wolves?”
He nodded.
Well, we werewolves did tend to get around--although I did find it surprising they’d bed the human males over the non-human. There were too many inherent risks in that sort of choice--although the mere fact that wolf-human half-breeds existed suggested there were plenty who didn’t agree with my point of view.
“That doesn’t mean they bedded the same man,” I said. “As I’ve already said, there’s more than one male working on this island.”
“His description matches the one I have from Adrienne.”
So, Adrienne wouldn’t give her grandfather a name, but she did give a description? Somehow, I doubted it. There was more going on here than what Blake was saying. “If you’ve only talked to one other family, how do you know there are three women missing?”
“I know.” His voice was grim. “Clairvoyance is a pack inheritance, remember?”
“I don’t believe anyone bothered mentioning that to the half-breeds.” Though it did at least explain where my no-longer-latent clairvoyance skills came from.
Amusement twinkled briefly in his cold, grey eyes. “An oversight, I’m sure.”
Hate swelled up, its bitter taste just about making me gag. “This isn’t a Directorate problem, Blake. Go haunt someone else, because I’m not interested in helping you or your get.”
I turned and walked away, as fast as I could. That prickle of awareness told me Blake hadn’t moved, and yet his voice reached out across the distance as easily as if he were standing right beside me.
“You will help us, Riley.”
“That impolite response I cast your way earlier still stands.”
“Riley, stop.”
My muscles twitched with the need to obey, but my vampire half was having none of that. It was all I could do not to break into a run to get away from his presence--though if I thought it would do any good, I probably would have.
“Riley, I’m ordering you to stop right now, or face the consequences.”
“There’s nothing you can do to me, Blake. Not anymore.”
I should have known better than to tempt fate like that. I really should have.
“If you do not stop this instant,” he said softly, “I will kill your mother.”

Dani
July 13th, 2007, 12:02 AM
WOOHOO!!! I can't wait for the book now. This only increased my wanting for it!

I can tell already that I won't like Blake. He's already striking me as a real a**! I just don't like when men act that way. Women too for that matter! :lol:

Thank you, oh great Karenne, for getting this up for us!!!!

Karenne
July 13th, 2007, 12:39 AM
You can preorder that now here:

http://www.coffeetimeromance.com/BookStore/AmazonAssociate.html

Clears throat..as you will see..it is in the NUMBER 1 SLOT!

(throws head back and laughs as the power courses through my body):eek:

Dani
July 13th, 2007, 12:26 PM
Now that's what I like to see Karenne! :lol: Keri's going to be pleased with you putting her book there too. Now listen here, don't let all that power go to your head. We don't want a madwoman on our hands. :rolleyes:

DavidsGirl841444
July 15th, 2007, 12:14 AM
mad women make great rulers but also scary ones to. *Looks around for something to hide behind.* Yeah Blake seems as if he is making himslef out to be the bad guy. I like that I don't have to llike him at all. Threatining her mom like that and being a a**back in the day. I want to know who would mess with wolves like them.

mskendra
July 15th, 2007, 12:57 AM
How long do we have to wait? :-( I like the "grandfather" thought you'd
take over comment. Threatening the mom sucks.. but he has to give her a strong reason. I wonder what her brother is going to say.

*rubbs hands together* can't wait to read it

Dani
July 15th, 2007, 12:58 AM
16 days and counting!

DavidsGirl841444
July 15th, 2007, 08:47 AM
Meow still out there!

CharmedGirl
July 15th, 2007, 08:38 PM
I can not wait for this book.

The excerpt sounds fantastic!

Dani
July 15th, 2007, 10:03 PM
:welcome: to Keri's forum CharmedGirl! Please come back and post often. We love new people here.

I agree that it's going to be fantastic, but then again, all of Keri's book are awsome to me. :turned:

Karenne
July 15th, 2007, 10:04 PM
waves at CharmedGirl!

So glad you are here! Make sure you check out all of Keri's area...she has TONS going on!:flowers:

DavidsGirl841444
July 16th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Welcome to the newbie on the block always love to have fresh new faces and threads. We just have to ask who you go for which guy starts you rmotor.

Dani
July 16th, 2007, 10:14 PM
:lol: You are too funny with the questions Davidsgirl. It's a great one though!

phoenyxstarr
July 17th, 2007, 09:57 AM
Oooh, I can't wait for this one. Blake sounds like an evil a** & I cannot believe that he threatened Riley's mom. Wait, yeah I can. Like I said, he sounds evil.

Karenne
July 17th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Blake is an evil a**!!! Big jerk!

Dani
July 17th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Thank you Karenne for confirming my suspicions about Blake (not that you did it intentionally...LOL). I knew I wasn't going to like him!! :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
July 17th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Ohh another man to grrr on I love bashing evil guys, it's so empowering to women, and me since i can't go around kicking guys in the groin all day.

CharmedGirl
July 17th, 2007, 08:01 PM
Blake sounds a pain in the a** to me!

Where does he get off throwing his weight around and annoying Riley when he is the one that threw her off a mountain when she was a pup?

Go boss someone else around and let Riley get on with stopping the real bad guys.

Dani
July 17th, 2007, 09:01 PM
Ohh another man to grrr on I love bashing evil guys, it's so empowering to women, and me since i can't go around kicking guys in the groin all day.
Are we just a little vindictive today sweetie? :roflmao: That's okay, we all are allowed to be that way somedays.


Blake sounds a pain in the a** to me!

Where does he get off throwing his weight around and annoying Riley when he is the one that threw her off a mountain when she was a pup?

Go boss someone else around and let Riley get on with stopping the real bad guys.

So far he gets off doing that because he's the alpha of the pack. That's why he can call Riley like he does and why her wolf wants to cower down to him. Lord knows I want to know what happened to Riley's grandfather if that :censored: is the alpha now.

DavidsGirl841444
July 19th, 2007, 08:26 PM
He probably did something underhanded and got the position. But yeah vindictive is me and that makes me happy.

Dani
July 26th, 2007, 12:50 AM
I was on Charlaine Harris' site earlier and under a thread for Keri's books some one said they already have Embraced by Darkness!!! :arghhhh: The person found it at Walmart today or yesterday. I think that the person's Walmart might have made a mistake and put it out early, but you never know. I'm sooo going tomorrow to see if my Walmart has it out and if they do I'll let everyone know (I will also be getting it if they have it). I'm still in shock about reading that.

Keri, does it upset you when a store put your book out earlier than when it's supposed to come out? I was wondering how you would feel about reading this that's why I asked.

KeriArthur
July 26th, 2007, 02:45 AM
Keri, does it upset you when a store put your book out earlier than when it's supposed to come out? I was wondering how you would feel about reading this that's why I asked.

the only thing it really upsets is sales figures--books released earlier don't get counted in the release week, so it lessens the chance of being on the bestseller lists. And getting on bestseller lists is good, because people (esp bookstore and distributer people) tend to take notice of that.

otherwise, a sale is a sale (and I'm not about to begrudge anyone getting the book early!)

Karenne
July 26th, 2007, 11:54 AM
ohh..that is not right! You deserve all of the recognition for the sales on that list.

Thanks for letting us know about that. I had not even thought about that.

Great question Dani!:punk:

Dani
July 26th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Well, I'm happy (and kinda sad too) to report that my Walmart did not have Embraced out yet. I can wait a few more days though. It's all good. :clap:

:realmad:I think it's awful that some stores will put a book out early. I have a feeling though that it was a total mistake that they put it out so soon.

Keri, if it makes you feel any better, I promise not to buy the book before Tuesday even if I find it early. I'd hate to have my sale not get counted for you to be on the best sellers list. :biggrin:

Illyria
July 26th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I am definitely going to get it, Keri. :notworthy:

Dani
July 26th, 2007, 12:49 PM
I thought you already had the book Illyria (the ARC that you won). It never hurts to have an extra copy though. :lol:

I also put my question to Keri and her answer back to me on Charlaine's site under a thread that they started about Keri's books. That way they know about it. I just want the sale counted so that Keri's book goes on the best sellers list! :biggrin:

Karenne
July 26th, 2007, 03:00 PM
Well, I'm happy (and kinda sad too) to report that my Walmart did not have Embraced out yet. I can wait a few more days though. It's all good. :clap:

:realmad:I think it's awful that some stores will put a book out early. I have a feeling though that it was a total mistake that they put it out so soon.

Keri, if it makes you feel any better, I promise not to buy the book before Tuesday even if I find it early. I'd hate to have my sale not get counted for you to be on the best sellers list. :biggrin:


You are da woman! :tt1:

DavidsGirl841444
July 26th, 2007, 03:10 PM
You are the women Irishwolf. I will wait as well even if they do have it thus I will not search for it until then. Lots of will power to do that. Cause really want to read it. But waiting a few more days. I can do it.

Dani
July 26th, 2007, 03:24 PM
Trust me it's gonna be BIG will power, but I'm gonna do it! :biggrin:

DavidsGirl841444
July 26th, 2007, 03:47 PM
For you that is alot for any of us dying to get our hands on the book.

Dani
July 26th, 2007, 11:21 PM
*grumbling* Okay ladies (and gent), I am offically p'd off at Walmart. I went to their website and searched for Embraced and they had it as in stock and ready to sell. I don't these people know what they are doing putting the book out early? If they do they sure as hell don't care and that's sad. Grrrrrrrr!

Someone remind me why I shop there again. Oh yeah, that's right, I have no other stores like it around (well Kmart, but it's not good). :censored:

DavidsGirl841444
July 27th, 2007, 10:12 AM
Kmart no offense is second rate compared walmart. Well it may be in ours but scared to look because of temptation.

Karenne
July 27th, 2007, 12:26 PM
cough...because we are cheap and poor?

grumbles...stupid wal mart:yes:

Dani
July 27th, 2007, 08:46 PM
Well, I have news on the the issue above. It seems that no one else on Charlaine's boards that like Keri's books can find Embraced at their Walmarts, so I really think it was a fluke on the one lady's Walmart to have put it out early. Which is very good. Oh, just so you know, she's already finished the book (it took her 1 day and she said that she reads fast) and no she hasn't given anything away.

Karenne, you have a friend on those boards because one of the girls there likes Kellen. Here's what she wrote:

'ok so here comes the big question who is your fave guy in the series? so far i find myself partial to Kellen. That bathtub scene was HOT! i'm a sucker for a bathtub/shower scene lol'

Keri you now have given this same girl a name for her son when the time comes. LOL This is what she said on that:

'My husband has actually agreed to let me name our 1st son (when the time arises) Rowan Kade (i know she spells it Rhoan but i like it better the other way).'

I thought that was cute so I had to share (and make it colorful...LOL)! :biggrin:

DavidsGirl841444
July 27th, 2007, 10:47 PM
Oh my god she actually naming a character after the book people. Not bad to bad my guy would not go for that. Oh another Kellen person well can't blame them they like Eric as well in those series. So yeah. Fluke's sounds good. Like it colorful.

Dani
July 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM
She's going to name a child after, not one of Keri's characters, but TWO (Rhoan and Kade)! I think it's neat! I've thought about doing that too a couple of times. And Rowan is a good, strong Irish (well Celtic) name (I love my Irish heritage)! LOL:wub:

DavidsGirl841444
July 29th, 2007, 01:39 PM
Oh my god my guy is half irish he is such a cute white guy. And his moms side is the best. Plus I want to go there some day it sounds so pretty to vacation.

Dani
July 29th, 2007, 01:44 PM
I've never been there, but I want to go too. My grandmother went a couple of years before she passed and sent a post card to me that was beautiful. She told me when she came back that Ireland was the most beautiful place she'd ever seen.

Dani
July 29th, 2007, 06:26 PM
Okay, I have some interesting news that is similar to one of the posts that I made before. Remember how I had mentioned that a lady on Charlaine's boards said that Walmart had put out Keri's book already? I know, how could we forget, right? LOL! Well the same lady was on Charlaine's boards again, but this time she mentioned that Patricia Briggs' book (it's an anthology with other authors) On the Prowl is out at her Walmart. I haven't seen it yet at mine and someone else said it wasn't out at her Walmart either.

That got me thinking that whoever runs the first lady's Walmart doesn't seem to care when release dates are and just puts out the books so they can make a profit. This really burns my butt because, like Keri said, early sales don't count towards the author being on the bestsellers list. I'm just about ready to email Walmart and tell them that they are doing a disservice to the authors by putting their books out before the release date.

Can you tell that I'm just a little P'd off? :roflmao: Well now that I'm finished with my rant on this lady's Walmart I'll stop.

Skater
July 29th, 2007, 10:56 PM
I don't understand? why would you gilrs be mad? when i saw it in walmart i did a cartwheel, (then was told to leave by walmart personel, some people are just up tight) I was certainly estatic to have an early copy.:clap:

Dani
July 29th, 2007, 11:51 PM
That's wonderful for you skater, and Keri would never be mad at anyone for getting an early copy, but the early sale takes away from the author being counted for the bestsellers list. They count sales from the release date on to see where the authors will be on that list. This is why I'm p'd off just a bit and most of the ladies here would agree with me.

Karenne
July 30th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Hey skater....

We have been having a conversation about early releases...it is not that we aren't happy to see the book or get it earlier (no way...drool) It is something else.

If you want ..look back in this thread starting about the 15th (I believe) and you will get it honey!:tt1:

DavidsGirl841444
July 30th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Anotehr day oh my god it is forever coming. Hehehehe! JOke.

Dani
July 30th, 2007, 10:26 PM
Just a few more hours! LOL. I'll be going in the morning.

Skater
July 30th, 2007, 11:42 PM
Wow! i love this book! its so neat, i completely dropped harry potter to read this and i don't regret it!

Dani
July 31st, 2007, 09:11 AM
Today is the day ladies (& gent)!:wub: I'm off to get my book as I figure most of you are too! I'll let ya know later where I'm at (what chapter) and what I think so far. I promise only to say it's awsome and what not. LOL :biggrin:

DavidsGirl841444
July 31st, 2007, 08:54 PM
Ok got the book a couple of hours ago and yes I have to tell you got it today and it was nicely priced thank you target gods. Hehehehe! OK So off to read in a bit. Yeah!!

Dani
July 31st, 2007, 11:43 PM
I'm almost to chapter 6 ladies!! I didn't get to read as much as I wanted to earlier because life got in the way, but I'm reading at a pretty good rate. I'll have it done by morning. :biggrin: LOL...If the sleep gods don't come for me again (and boy are they fine...one kinda looks like Mr Romance:wub: *wags eyebrows*). Hahahahaha!

KeriArthur
August 1st, 2007, 12:09 AM
lol. If I had sleep gods like that visiting me, you wouldn't be getting me out of bed!

:lol:

Dani
August 1st, 2007, 12:14 AM
:devil: I don't think that I'd be getting out of bed either...That's why I said IF! :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
August 1st, 2007, 10:55 AM
Funny ladies we got here.

Dani
August 1st, 2007, 08:52 PM
Of course we're funny honey! It's the way we like it you know that!! :lol: If we weren't funny what else would be?

DavidsGirl841444
August 2nd, 2007, 09:28 AM
I like your Dani will work for books! Its so cute.

Dani
August 2nd, 2007, 12:53 PM
I felt that I needed a change and I will do anything for books! :roflmao:

phoenyxstarr
August 2nd, 2007, 01:29 PM
I like that too... Its pretty original. First time I've saw that online anyway.

Dani
August 2nd, 2007, 01:39 PM
Thank you! I like it too. :biggrin:

DavidsGirl841444
August 2nd, 2007, 10:48 PM
Of course you do how do you go about putting somethingunder your name oris that more for asking in a private mesage or something.

Dani
August 3rd, 2007, 12:11 AM
No secret about how to do it. Just go to the User CP in the left hand corner (by the FAQs) and click on it, the go to Edit Signature under Settings & Options on the left hand side of the screen and that takes you to where you need to go to type in whatever you want. Hope that helps!! :biggrin:

DavidsGirl841444
August 3rd, 2007, 10:17 AM
Thank you I think I got it now let me see.

DavidsGirl841444
August 3rd, 2007, 10:18 AM
Yeah thank you Irish wolf your so much help. Hugs.

sjwilling
August 3rd, 2007, 04:46 PM
Very nice, very powerful work.

S.J.

Dani
August 3rd, 2007, 09:18 PM
Yeah thank you Irish wolf your so much help. Hugs.
You're welcome honey!! Anytime you need it let me know. :whoohoo:

william
August 10th, 2007, 10:08 PM
I liked the book up to the end....mainly because it ended lol. Lots of information to take in....and the action was unrivled by any other books i have read in the last month.

Dani
August 10th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Did you not like the book because it was all about Kellen and no Quinn?

william
August 10th, 2007, 10:32 PM
You missunderstand me....i LOVED the book!!!!! just didn't like that it ended. And yes it could have used a little more MAN and a little less sniveling pansy...*snickers* Quinn never hesitates to kick off in someones behind if they mess with him or Riley....Kellen just stands there with his arms at his side waiting for her to call like a little lost puppy.

Dani
August 10th, 2007, 10:46 PM
OH, okay! I agree about what you said. Kellen is a pansey.:roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
August 11th, 2007, 10:39 AM
A huge Pansey, and Will your right Quinn would totally kick some ass. He just stood there staring as if he expected some one to tell him what to do. While Quinn acts.

Dani
August 11th, 2007, 04:01 PM
It makes me wonder how Kellen got to where he's at if he doesn't jump in and take action. I mean he's an alpha for crying out loud. How can he do his job without getting into the action?

DavidsGirl841444
August 12th, 2007, 12:59 PM
well maybe he gets the little people to do it for him. He just orders them around. I always thought that he was a takce charge kind of guy but maybe he is not.

christinac
August 16th, 2007, 11:28 AM
It makes me wonder how Kellen got to where he's at if he doesn't jump in and take action. I mean he's an alpha for crying out loud. How can he do his job without getting into the action?

You're right Dani, I remember in the book where Riley was being shot at and she went off to find the shooter and Kellen just stayed there and later on he said that Riley didn't even flinch when the guy beside got his head blown to pieces. If he was an alpha male that shouldn't have mattered he should have wanted to protect Riley not worry about that guy.

Dani
August 16th, 2007, 12:47 PM
That's what made me think about it Christina. That's why I questioned his alpha ablities. Most alphas wouldn't stand there and watch no matter what. So why did he?

christinac
August 16th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Hmmm....that's only something Keri can answer or there might be an answer in the next book :)

DavidsGirl841444
August 16th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Hey it's a little shocking seeing someone's head get blown off. Not that I am making excuses for the little piece of whimp that he is, just that it is unnerving thats all. Maybe he got scared whoa a pitiful alpha for sure.

KeriArthur
August 16th, 2007, 05:39 PM
I think even an alpha would be a little shocked about seeing someone's brains shot out...and Riley didn't give him a whole lot of chance to do or say anything before she ran off. And remember, she has vampire speed, and he wouldn't have been able to keep up with her anyway.

Remember, too, there are varying degrees of alpha. Yes, an alpha leads, but Kellen's father is the alpha of their pack, not kellen. If kellen was a true alpha, he'd be challenging his father for the pack. He hasn't.

Can you tell I still like kellen? lol. I am hoping to bring him back into the story sometime, too (and maybe explain all this a bit better)

Dani
August 16th, 2007, 08:25 PM
Cool Keri! Thanks for the info. I remember you posting in another thread that you were going to bring Kellen back sometime, but not as a love interest (thank gosh...LOL).

I have nothing against Kellen, except of course what he did to Riley. I have just expressed that something about him didn't sit right with me. I wasn't thinking that him seeing the man get his head blown off would bother him considering that he's a werewolf and has probably seen a lot of carnage within the pack (fighting for higher ranks and that sort).

christinac
August 17th, 2007, 07:21 AM
Yeah what Dani said :)

DavidsGirl841444
August 17th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Yeah with Irish. Well its good he is coming back we figured that. So yeah not as love intrest bad. But whoa didn't think he would challeng ehis dad he seems to nice at the moment for that.

Dani
August 18th, 2007, 02:02 AM
He hasn't challenged his dad yet. His dad is still the alpha of his pack.

NessyPerth
August 18th, 2007, 02:48 AM
so if kellens dad dropped dead of say a heart attack or something *god forbid* does that mean kellen automatically becomes the alpha or will he have to fight for the position?

Dani
August 18th, 2007, 04:09 PM
That's an excellent question Nessy. If he's his father's second then Kellen probably would just take over if something was to happen to his father. At least I would think so anyway, but then again, it could be that he'd have to fight someone else for leadership after his father's death. I mean, most likely someone will try to challenge him for his father's position.

Let's see what Keri says about it.

KeriArthur
August 18th, 2007, 06:27 PM
:whistling:

I haven't decided yet what's going to happen there. It's likely to be book 9 or beyond (if there is a beyond). And there's also the events of books 7 & 8 to worry about...

:arghhhh:

Dani
August 18th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Right now we'll just worry about what's in book 6 until it comes out. Then we'll start to think about book 7 and what not. I was trying to answer Nessy's question as best as I could.

Keep thinking that there will be a beyond. We keep thinking there will be. I don't think I'll ever tire of Riley, her men and her adventures.

DavidsGirl841444
August 19th, 2007, 12:32 PM
I know that but I always can't wait for a happily ever after. So yeah I want the books to go on I would like to see a resolution some day.

NessyPerth
August 20th, 2007, 06:33 AM
Right on DavidsGirl i can't wait for a h.e.a ending either, but i also dont want the series to finish ooooooo im so confused :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
August 20th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Don't worry Keri will at least make sure it doesn't end if we don't want to. But I don't know about the h.e.a. sometimes they end worse. Deaths.

NessyPerth
August 20th, 2007, 09:46 AM
eeeeeek cant have that now. But if someone dies doesn't that wont be a h.e.a ending it will be uuum sad ever after LOL

christinac
August 20th, 2007, 11:48 AM
Yeah, Nessy it would be a sad ever after. That is funny :sorry:

Dani
August 20th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Yeah, I want to see that HEA too, but we'll see how Keri ends it.

NessyPerth
August 20th, 2007, 08:46 PM
END??? noooooooooooooooo :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
August 20th, 2007, 08:57 PM
I don't want the Riley series to end it would be way too sad :arghhhh:

Dani
August 21st, 2007, 01:28 AM
I didn't mean that she'd end it right now. I meant when she ends it, if that ever happens.

CharmedGirl
August 21st, 2007, 01:32 AM
I don't think Keri will end the Riley series for a while her books are so popular :turned: . Well hopefully she doesn't end them soon :taz:

DavidsGirl841444
August 21st, 2007, 09:58 AM
Me either it just wanting to know all the suprises now instead of later inpatient here.

christinac
August 21st, 2007, 12:58 PM
I think all of us are a lil impatient right now. :arghhhh: But we can do this. I don't think Keri will end it for a while, but remember she has to have the demand for her books. I don't think she'll have a problem though.

Dani
August 21st, 2007, 01:01 PM
I don't think that the demand will be a problem at all! Keri's books are amazing, so I think there will always be a demand!

christinac
August 21st, 2007, 03:18 PM
Yeah Keri is awesome!!!!

DavidsGirl841444
August 21st, 2007, 03:42 PM
We'l be scatching and clawing at the door for more.

Dani
August 22nd, 2007, 03:17 PM
You bet we will!! :whoohoo:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 22nd, 2007, 04:55 PM
I don't think any of us are going to be going anywhere. We're all hooked on Riley's story now. Keep right on writing Keri, we'll be here with you the whole way. Hopefully a whole long, long way.

NessyPerth
August 23rd, 2007, 10:12 AM
right on we will be here till the end. i have already got quite a few other people reading this series. I'm sure by the time they all finish book 5 and see how long a wait until the next one; i dont think i will be very popular :roflmao:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 23rd, 2007, 10:51 PM
Well you're breaking them in right. We all have to wait. They can wait too. You don't want to spoil them. Plus maybe this way, they'll be so frustrated that they'll start someone else reading Keri's books, so that they can do the same thing, get someone else frustrated about the wait. If we all did this imagine all the frustrated readers we could have out there. LOL

:whoohoo:

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 02:37 AM
sounds like a plan but lets just leave out the postal workers cause we dont want anyone getting that frustrated who may go postal :roflmao:
ooops too late my mum works at a mail centre and i gave her my copies to read. Hmm i will have to keep my eye on her LMAO

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Ya'll are hilarious!!

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 09:35 AM
Okay, so no postal workers. Since she is your mom, you might be safe there. One can never tell. Sometimes my mom can be meaner than a snake. Gotta love her, but man (shivers) I hate to be on her bad side. She's scary sometimes.

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 10:16 AM
I know what you mean my mom is the same way sometimes!!

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 10:17 AM
ha ha i bet my daughter will say the same about me one day LOL

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Well that's just how daughters are sometimes but I don't think she would say something like that about you! You are cool! :)

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Hey christina i'm going to have to get my daughter to read that last post of yours LMAO perhaps then she will think i'm cool too ;)

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Okay, then I'll say it again! Nessy is cool!

There now you have double ammunition! LOL


Okay can someone do that for me? I need some ammunition for me kids as well. LOL

:yes:

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 10:57 AM
Alright, Beachy is the coolest!!
You need anything else I'm your girl!!! :lol:

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Hey Trisha you are sooo cool:rockon: LOL

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:07 AM
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you both!

I had my son (the 11 year old) read it! He laughed. Then said "Sure Mom"


Kids today (shaking my head) they have no respect. LOL

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:09 AM
ahh i think my daughter and your son would have a lot in common. Cheeky buggers :roflmao:

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 11:10 AM
I've noticed that kids today are nothing like I use to be I know i'm only 22 but my lil sister is 14 and she is a whole lot different than I was.

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:19 AM
i know exactly what you mean. I think it has alot to do with environment and technological changes. And fear too. Parents are too afraid to let their kids just wander off and play like kids used to do. Which is understandable but does anything really happen these days that never used to back then? i dont think so.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:23 AM
No, your right. I think it all use to happen then too. But I do think that maybe it happens a little more now. Or the news is so much more than it use to be and we hear about it a lot more. And as parents it's scares the crap out of us.

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:29 AM
i think it does happen more but only because the populations are growing. Hence more sick people out there but also more good people too. So we do hear about it more but then again the chances of something bad happening are probably the same as they used to be back then. But it's hard to not be afraid.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:33 AM
You've got that right! I think all parents have that fear. You've just got to make sure is not the suffocating kind. You don't want to smother you child with your fear.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Man those two words sounded bad, considering what we are talking about, but you know what I mean.


;)

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:36 AM
right on. I think by being over protective is just as damaging as not being protective enough some times. Kids have got to be kids, and by not letting them experience certain things can actually damage their development into adulthood

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Yes it can. It can make it hard for them to adapt into society, never having had any experience with people/ friends, etc.

My parents tried to do that. Not out of fear, but because of the need to be controlling! It made going off to college (which I paid for) a blessing. It was hard at first, but I was just so d**n glad to get away from them. LOL

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 11:45 AM
yeah i reckon it would be. My mum was a single parent and she worked till about 6.30 every night so us kids pretty much had free reign. We got up to some mischief but we learned to look out for ourselves and each other, and very important decicion making and leadership skills i think.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 12:42 PM
Definitely leadership skills, My parents split when I was 4, and both remarried 2 or 3 years later. My dad had another child, my mother had 2 more children. When it was all said and done, after you add in the children from their spouse, I made number 5 on either side of my family. On my mom's side I was the oldest, on my dad's I was second to the oldest. My dad is the drunk, my step-dad the control freak.


Sidebar here :And trust me Nessy, compared to him, you are NOT a control freak. So don't sweat it.

But on my dad's side, they would go out to party and we'd be left alone. Man the fun we use to have. Definitely mischief and then some. The first thing we would do was raid the kitchen. We were always hungry. Three of us were all within on year of each other, then the other two were young. So we had to watch out for them, because there would be h*ll to pay if something happened to them.

Another sidebar here: I admire single mothers/fathers a heck of a lot. They don't give up, they take care of the children the very best they can. It takes a lot of guts, caring, and determination.

Okay, that's it. I didn't mean to type to so much.

christinac
August 24th, 2007, 02:25 PM
No beachy what you said was so true.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Okay! uuhhhh...........which part? :lol:

Laughing at myself here. :whistling:

Dani
August 24th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Dang, do we all come from broken homes? LOL Probably not, but it just seems like it.

I agree that the kids today are different than we were. They seem to have no respect for anything or anyone lately and the worst thing about it is that most of the parents don't care.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Not me! I am not going to have my kids showing disrespect to me or anyone, or anything. They will treat people with respect, even if those people don't deserve it. We are only responsible for what we do, not what others do. That's something that I'm teaching them too. And they'll take care of their things or they won't have them anymore.

Just my take.

NessyPerth
August 24th, 2007, 10:17 PM
mine can be a real cheeky little rat sometimes for me, but for other people she's always a good polite little :angel:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 10:19 PM
All three of mine will do that do, and it's constantly a work in progress. But outside our home, in public, they better so respect to other. And they better pretend that they show me respect too. I don't want people to think that I let my kids walk all over me. Even if they do out number me. :yes:

Dani
August 24th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Mine is the same way Nessy. He's terrible at home, but at school and with other adults he's the perfect little gentleman. I teach him about right and wrong and how we act in public and when he's with me and I see a kid acting out I show him and say that that's not what we do in public (although he's had his momnets in public for sure). I look at it this way, as long as he's like he is in the company of other adults, then I've done my job well. :yes:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 24th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Yay!.....Nothing like a job done well, especially when it comes to your kids.

NessyPerth
August 25th, 2007, 11:19 AM
well we all try out best. learn as we go and hope our kids learn to make good decisions! ;)

Dani
August 25th, 2007, 02:46 PM
Yep, that is the only thing we can do and hope for the best. :biggrin:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 25th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Hope, worry, and hope some more. :yes:

NessyPerth
August 25th, 2007, 10:49 PM
and go prematurly grey :roflmao:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 26th, 2007, 12:35 AM
That's why I went to the hairdresser today! LMAO

NessyPerth
August 26th, 2007, 01:10 AM
lmao... i havn't been to the hairdresser for so long. too expensive, i colour my own hair and a friend trims it :roflmao: no wonder it's soo long

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 26th, 2007, 02:00 AM
I don't have anyone around that can cut a straight line, so I have to go. Otherwise I'm lopsided.

:yes:

NessyPerth
August 26th, 2007, 02:02 AM
yeah well i end up lopsidded sometimes. just walk around with my head tilted so it looks straight :roflmao:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 26th, 2007, 02:07 AM
LMAO. I can understand that. The lady I used to go to did that. It looked like I was trying to be one of those prissy woman that always have their heads tilted, trying to look cool or something. So I stopped going to her. I couldn't do it.:lol:

NessyPerth
August 27th, 2007, 04:57 AM
ahhh it's ok i can get away with it cause im really really cool. just ask anyone. Leg warmers are still in, right????? :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
August 27th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Ok yeah grant it kids these days are sometimes little not caring punks who only think of ourselves and have manners like a monkey's. Yes part of that is the up bringing also is their faults as well and what they pick up from there friends too. Peer pressure bad.

Oh hairdresser would love to but my hair short eough. What I need is a nail salon fo rmy pathetic looking hand. Yesleg warmers totaly in, if it is cold.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM
I haven't seen leg warmers in years. LMAO The only time I've seen them are in old movies. I'm laughing so hard, it's hard to type. NO leg warmers! Laughing MAO still!

:clap:

Dani
August 27th, 2007, 05:51 PM
Leg warmers?!?!?!?! :roflmao: That's too funny. The last time I saw them was when I went past the local dance studio. I think the dancers still use them, but maybe not. Oh, and like Trisha said, in old movies! :lol:

NessyPerth
August 27th, 2007, 08:40 PM
what no one wears leg warmers anymore? sheesh i better stop wearing them. so much for me being cool. :p

DavidsGirl841444
August 28th, 2007, 12:43 AM
You arecool just unique in your cool way.

christinac
August 28th, 2007, 08:23 AM
You said D.G. she is cool is her own unique way just like all of us are :)

NessyPerth
August 28th, 2007, 10:44 AM
oh and sholder pads are still in too right? :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
August 28th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Well sorry to burst your bubble but shoulder pads are so not in. Regular own shoulders are in. I never saw a need to look like a quarterback at all.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 28th, 2007, 12:00 PM
OMG! No! Put down the shoulder pads and step away from them. Better yet throw them in the garbage. Do you wanna look like a football player? :lol:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 28th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Darn, DavidsGirl, you beat me by a minute with the post. But great minds do think alike and quarterbacker, football player same thing. LMAO

christinac
August 28th, 2007, 01:36 PM
It's ok Nessy put them down we will help you everything will be OK!!:lol:

Dani
August 28th, 2007, 03:24 PM
oh and sholder pads are still in too right? :roflmao:
OMG! Shoulder pads. Are you trying out for a football team? Which position? Hahahaha!!!:roflmao:

Karenne
August 28th, 2007, 06:25 PM
clears throat....rumor has it (and the magazines say so) that the 80s styles are going to be back in style this coming season.

so look out..shoulder pads are back and here to stay for a while:baffled:

snicker

CharmedGirl
August 28th, 2007, 06:27 PM
clears throat....rumor has it (and the magazines say so) that the 80s styles are going to be back in style this coming season.

so look out..shoulder pads are back and here to stay for a while:baffled:

snicker

80's fashion is already back in here in some of the stores in Australia especially at Jeans West :arghhhh:

NessyPerth
August 28th, 2007, 08:52 PM
as long as those hairstyles are not coming back with it cause OH MY GOSH!

CharmedGirl
August 28th, 2007, 09:06 PM
as long as those hairstyles are not coming back with it cause OH MY GOSH!

I totally agree. But I'm really looking to seeing that new movie Hairspray :lol:

Dani
August 28th, 2007, 11:13 PM
clears throat....rumor has it (and the magazines say so) that the 80s styles are going to be back in style this coming season.

so look out..shoulder pads are back and here to stay for a while:baffled:

snicker
*Screams and runs* OMG!!! Does that mean the De Lorean is coming back too? :roflmao: It's gonna be Back to the Future all over again!

CharmedGirl
August 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM
*Screams and runs* OMG!!! Does that mean the De Lorean is coming back too? :roflmao: It's gonna be Back to the Future all over again!

I hope so I loved that movie especially Michael J Fox! :lol:

NessyPerth
August 29th, 2007, 04:16 AM
OMG! Shoulder pads. Are you trying out for a football team? Which position? Hahahaha!!!:roflmao:
ok i gotta ask a question about your american football. Why do they call it football when noone actually kicks it? shouldn't they call it like throw ball, or arm ball cause they just tuck it under their arms and run or throw it. :p

Just a stray thought!

Beach Bum Wanna Be
August 29th, 2007, 11:27 AM
Well we do have kickers, and they kick it everytime that the ball changes teams, and they kick for field goals. But I don't know, why they call it that. Maybe because you've gotta be fast on your feet, but then almost all sports are like that. I guess we just wanted to be different, and confuse everyone else. ;)

LOL

DavidsGirl841444
August 29th, 2007, 11:50 AM
I am with that because it is weird why they call it that I sound it wierd. But yeah have to go with Beach bum on this they probably call it that to be fast onthe go.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 1st, 2007, 05:30 PM
I asked my husband the question about football, and he said back in the day that they use to drop kick the ball for field goals. I don't know if this helps or not.

:whistling:

NessyPerth
September 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM
ahhh i c (well actually i dont but lets not tell) so you call it football to confuse the blondes? have i got this right? :roflmao:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 1st, 2007, 10:15 PM
Probably. And that's probably why I can't help you with why they call it that either! LMAO

Dani
September 2nd, 2007, 12:22 AM
I'll look it up and see what I can find on why we call it football. :teacher:

NessyPerth
September 3rd, 2007, 09:42 AM
haha looks like i've starting something here, researching the history of american football. I expect 2000 word essays, double spaced with correct referencing :roflmao:

DavidsGirl841444
September 3rd, 2007, 10:41 AM
Ok well lets see no thank you I will take an f on that assisgnment. I am a rebel teach.

Dani
September 3rd, 2007, 03:40 PM
haha looks like i've starting something here, researching the history of american football. I expect 2000 word essays, double spaced with correct referencing :roflmao:
You can dream on about the essay Nessy! :lol:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 3rd, 2007, 05:21 PM
Oh yeah! No essay from me either. Not gonna happen.:roflmao: .

christinac
September 4th, 2007, 08:44 AM
Nope not from me either. No essay.

DavidsGirl841444
September 4th, 2007, 10:29 AM
No school here just pure fun already in class ignoring most of what is said.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 12:38 PM
Isn't that the way it goes? LOL I think everyone ignores what's being said in class. At least some of the time anyway. I know I did........sometimes.:devil:

Dani
September 8th, 2007, 03:34 PM
I was the same way Trisha!! :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 8th, 2007, 03:39 PM
A 2000 word essay on American Football! I wouldn't even know where to begin so it's better that I don't even start it. LOL!

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 03:51 PM
I could just probably take a tape recorder and ask my husband some questions and get 2000 or even more words out of him on the subject. But then I'd have to type it up. :nah:

Not doing that though. :no:


:biggrin:

CharmedGirl
September 8th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I don't understand how anyone could write a 2000 word essay on American Football. I've never heard of anything so boring no offense :arghhhh:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 04:05 PM
I wouldn't want to do it. No offense taken. But my husband is a fanatic about football. So should one need to do it at all, my husband would be a great person to get the research from.

Twirling

Dani
September 8th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Most American men would be the ones to go to for an essay on football. It's just a given for them to watch it. That and major league baseball. :lol:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 04:17 PM
No I mean my husband and his best friend have a football website. He is also in about 5 fantasy football leagues. That's where they pretend they have players, teams, etc, and play other guys and see who wins from the people they have drafted. Yes, they draft their players. They are a little nutty.


:taz:

CharmedGirl
September 8th, 2007, 04:23 PM
We have that fantasy football here in Australia but if I had to pick a team it would consist of the hottest guys in the Rugby League not of the team I think would be victorious :roflmao:

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 04:33 PM
lmao Oh yeah! Maybe women can make a new fantasy league. One that has nothing to do with sports, but with bodies. Fantasy Inspiring League!

What do you ladies think?


:whoohoo:

Dani
September 8th, 2007, 04:49 PM
I have a few names to put on that list. Most of them are vamps, so when we check them out it would have to be a night! :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 8th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Position number one would definitely have to go to Quinn and position number two to Kade and the list goes on from there.

Beach Bum Wanna Be
September 8th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Hey, I happen to love the night. So of course we could have it at night. :yes:

I'm gonna have to add some werewolves too.


:clap:

DavidsGirl841444
September 9th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Plenty of wolves and Vamps go on the list as well as other species, and some humas as well. Well my future guy is into a sport yugioh and the card game. Playing with kids and all that.

Dani
September 9th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Awwww, my son loves Yu-Gi-Oh!, Naruto and Pokemon too, but since they aren't the type of men/boys we want to talk about I will say no more.

Now, I have a werewolf for you...Alcide from Charlaine's books. Oh and I can't forget the twins Rafe and Tim from Bianca D'Arc's book Lords of the Were. :hellobaby: they are HOT!

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 06:05 AM
I don't understand how anyone could write a 2000 word essay on American Football. I've never heard of anything so boring no offense :arghhhh:
i agree but if i said write a 2000 word essay on how hot Quinn is, i bet there would be no complaints and straight A's :roflmao:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 01:18 PM
We'd probably be making up new word and phrases to describe Quinn's hotness and slipping in a few things that we'd like to see happen, but we'd get the essay done and have over 2,000 words to boot!:roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 07:50 PM
I'd need more than 2000 words to write an essay on Quinn. There are so many descriptive words about him that I'd have to use every single one of them. I'd need about 10000 words and that might not still be enough to get everything in I'd want to say. LOL

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 08:49 PM
so how much is going to be about his doodah?? :roflmao:

haha trish i finally got the chance to say doodah in a tread :roflmao:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 08:54 PM
:roflmao: That's too funny!

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 09:09 PM
doodah doodah oh doodah day :roflmao: trisha is going to regret tellin me that word muahahahaha

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Yeah she is!! :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 09:34 PM
so how much is going to be about his doodah?? :roflmao:

haha trish i finally got the chance to say doodah in a tread :roflmao:

A lot of it will probably be about that and what a fine doodah he has :lol:

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 09:53 PM
haha can you imagine what keri would have to say about that?? lmao i wanna read her essay :roflmao:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 10:05 PM
I'm second after you!!! I called it!! :roflmao:

I have a feeling that it would be very juicy!!! ;)

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM
I was miss out on being first in line for anything. I guess I'll just have to wait my turn after Ness and Dani but I think it'll be covered in drool before it gets to me :lol:

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM
hmmm juicy? do you think it will be hard too? writing the essay that is.

hehehehe

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:18 PM
I think it will be smooth, juicy and easy to slip inside...the assignment I mean. LOL

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 10:19 PM
yeah really easy to slip into the "pigeon hole" :roflmao:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 10:28 PM
It will be a long, juicy essay and when I slide it in to the teacher for an A+ grade it will be smooth and glistening.

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:29 PM
OMG Ness! I meant slipping into somewhere else but if that's what you want to believe than go ahead :lol:

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 10:31 PM
OMG i dont think i want to know. :roflmao: it had better be some very sturdy paper

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Paper that slips easily between the sheets. LOL

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 10:33 PM
LMFAO so was that pun intended?

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 10:36 PM
You could say that! :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:37 PM
No it was not pun intended I wrote it because it was the first thing that came to my head. LOL

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 10:38 PM
yeah but i think you meant it will fit between the sheets of paper right?? haaahaaa yeah right!

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 10:39 PM
The first thing that "came to your head?" :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 10:49 PM
yeah but i think you meant it will fit between the sheets of paper right?? haaahaaa yeah right!

You can believe whatever you want to believe because I'm not telling :lol:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 11:19 PM
Well I'll believe what Nessy said CharmedGirl!! :roflmao:

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 11:22 PM
yup i'm always right, trust me!! Muahahahahhaha

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Do you really want to know because I'll tell you! Quinn will be fitting right between my sheets...I mean he'll be fitting right in where I put that scene in my essay. LOL

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 11:31 PM
:roflmao:My sides are hurting now chickie!! :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 10th, 2007, 11:47 PM
I'm starting my own essay on the doodah comparison of Quinn and Kade. I need some categories - Texture, Size, Width, Length...hmmm what else? LOL

NessyPerth
September 10th, 2007, 11:52 PM
ok can you send that my way when your finished. I'm sure we can turn this into a scientific study, we will be the envy of the academic world . :roflmao:

Dani
September 10th, 2007, 11:54 PM
I'll be the third scientist on the experiment! :whoohoo: :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 11th, 2007, 12:06 AM
A science experiment might be the way to go...good idea Ness. But you have to start at the top and work your way down to his you know what. LOL

NessyPerth
September 11th, 2007, 12:14 AM
absolutely, we will be absolutely professional about the whole thing. PFFFTTT yeah right

Dani
September 11th, 2007, 12:30 AM
Totally professional! Like they've never had it before. :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 11th, 2007, 12:51 AM
The word professional doesn't come to mind with what I want to do in the science experiment but I'll give it a shot! LOL

DavidsGirl841444
September 11th, 2007, 09:02 AM
Yeah this science experiment if it can be called that is funny as hell. I think if we do go for it plus I plan to help test out the theories. Will be laughed at every science journel. Or who knows there are girl scientist out there with just as dirty mind as ours. oh don't forget the usage and stamina it had.

CharmedGirl
September 12th, 2007, 07:17 PM
We each get to test the four hotties - Quinn, Kade, Ben and Kye. Then we compare notes on their you know what. My assignment would be very long if I had to write one on these four. LOL

Dani
September 12th, 2007, 09:11 PM
At least the assignment would be a fun Bec!! :whoohoo:

CharmedGirl
September 12th, 2007, 09:16 PM
Totally fun and very descriptive...there are so many adjectives for some of their body parts that I could write. First I'd have to overcome the experiment before I wrote it but that shouldn't be a problem. LOL

DavidsGirl841444
September 13th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Back to experimenting on the boys I love you guys, I

DavidsGirl841444
September 13th, 2007, 09:22 AM
got cut off, but want to try and see the usage of chocalate and whip cream on their toned bodies.

Dani
September 13th, 2007, 11:53 PM
It would be nice to try that, but remember we have to keep it clean in here, so that experiment will have to be put in another room. :lol:

DavidsGirl841444
September 14th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Show me the room and watch me fly right at it.

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 08:24 PM
i think it may be the most worthwhile study i've read in a long while :roflmao:

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 08:24 PM
certainly beats the hell outta the boring ass journal articles i have to read for uni

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 08:28 PM
I hated journal reading for uni and the study on Riley's men will definitely be way more interesting and exciting than any uni journal reading. LOL

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 08:35 PM
hmm just thinking what class it could fall under. Anatomy 101 perhaps?? :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 08:39 PM
I was thinking more like Physiology & Anatomy 101 :roflmao:

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 08:48 PM
:roflmao: oh yeah that sounds about right. There are probably another few areas we could include it too :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 08:50 PM
There would be no theory work it would be straight to the experiment :lol:

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 08:52 PM
oh thank god. Prac is good, theory is bad!!

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 08:59 PM
:whoohoo: Now all we have to do is set the objective and the methods of the experiment. Coming up with a title will be the most interesting part. :lol:

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 09:06 PM
yeah i think Doodah has to be in there somewhere :roflmao:

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 09:14 PM
I was thinking it would have to be a juicy title. LOL

NessyPerth
September 16th, 2007, 09:49 PM
hmm i will have to think on that one LMAO it's gotta be good

CharmedGirl
September 16th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Make sure it gets a lot of the details in Ness...and it has to be something extremely tasteful. LOL

Dani
September 16th, 2007, 11:47 PM
hmm just thinking what class it could fall under. Anatomy 101 perhaps?? :roflmao:
I know another class it would fall under too...Human Sexuallity! Yes, there is such a class because I had to take it in college and boy was it fun!! ;)

CharmedGirl
September 17th, 2007, 12:28 AM
What did that class entail Dani. I'd just like to clarify! LOL

Dani
September 17th, 2007, 01:30 PM
It was about the different aspects of our sexuallity. M/F, M/M, F/F, transgendered people and other things like that. It covered just about everything imaginable.

CharmedGirl
September 17th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Well as long as it covers stuff about Quinn and Kade we'll all be happy :lol:

DavidsGirl841444
September 17th, 2007, 08:00 PM
Not just quinnand kade I mean rohan, Liander, Ben, yes even grummble grummble kellen cause he is nice and sexy.

CharmedGirl
September 18th, 2007, 12:23 AM
We can't forget about Kye either. He would make an excellent topic. LOL

NessyPerth
September 18th, 2007, 02:26 AM
so when this study is all completed, do you think it will be implemented into sex ed classes? Say a mandatory read?? :roflmao: