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alexbeecroft
November 23rd, 2007, 12:02 PM
When I saw my book cover for the first time, I was absolutely overjoyed with it. This is the one:
http://www.alexbeecroft.com/CS_200.jpg

but it did give me pause for thought, because would I want to read it in the dentist's waiting room? Or on the train? Or in the Bible Belt? *G* Does anyone else feel a bit embarrassed at reading romances with sexy covers in public? Do you think it's worth it? Would you - if you could choose whatever you liked - go for sexy or for subtle on your book covers?

ms.raine
November 23rd, 2007, 01:58 PM
I use one of those soft book covers that I cut to fit. It works go for places that I know others looking would frown on my reading choice.

alexbeecroft
November 23rd, 2007, 02:50 PM
What a good idea! It's a bit of a shame for the author though, as it means that their book doesn't get the exposure of being seen being read. *g*

I've made an alternative dustcover for mine which I've got up on my site as a download. Something that looks very worthy and sea-story-ish :) I'm glad to know that I wasn't over-reacting when I had the idea!

hollie
November 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM
I have to be carefull at home as well i've got a 12 yr old girl who asks way to many questions

alexbeecroft
November 23rd, 2007, 07:11 PM
Do you think you'd be more inclined to buy them, then, if the covers weren't so... well.. obvious? (I ask because I know a lady who's doing a survey about book covers, and it made me wonder too.)

Yes, I have a 10 year old and a 13 year old, and I have to admit they are part of the reason why I wish mine was a bit more toned down! ;)

hollie
November 23rd, 2007, 07:18 PM
Yes I think, so my 10 yr old starts high school this time so he will ask questions soon as well but the little 2 don't care:)

Karenne
November 23rd, 2007, 08:43 PM
I do look at the covers. I have teenage kids. And some of the covers now....absolutely obscene. I don't want to have to buy a book cover to go over the covers of the books I want to read. I just won't purchase them anymore.

Plus, I really worry about what it is saying to my teenage daughter.

Dani
November 23rd, 2007, 09:41 PM
I really worry about the covers of some books too. I like some and then others are awful because they look so sexual. For the single person that has no children (or married with no kids) they could be fine, but when you have kids or are afraid of what others think of you for reading these books, well, some covers just aren't kosher.

alexbeecroft
November 24th, 2007, 08:11 AM
Yes I think, so my 10 yr old starts high school this time so he will ask questions soon as well but the little 2 don't care:)
With my two, because they're both in double figures, I don't worry so much about just telling them it's a love story - and that the two characters on the cover have fallen in love with each other, but that they're not old enough to read it yet. I worry that it's misguiding people looking to buy it into thinking that it's got more sex in it than it actually has!

alexbeecroft
November 24th, 2007, 08:15 AM
I do look at the covers. I have teenage kids. And some of the covers now....absolutely obscene. I don't want to have to buy a book cover to go over the covers of the books I want to read. I just won't purchase them anymore.

Plus, I really worry about what it is saying to my teenage daughter.
I do think it's worrying that romance seems to be indistinguishable from porn, by the covers. Which is sending out a false message really. But OTOH, when I said to my publishers 'how about putting a shirt on at least one of the lads?' they said 'well we would, but sexier covers sell better.'

I'm going to point my survey-taking friend over here, I think. Because it may well be that there's a quite large proportion of romance fans who are turned off by the covers, but who just aren't being heard.

alexbeecroft
November 24th, 2007, 08:20 AM
I really worry about the covers of some books too. I like some and then others are awful because they look so sexual. For the single person that has no children (or married with no kids) they could be fine, but when you have kids or are afraid of what others think of you for reading these books, well, some covers just aren't kosher.
I think a lot of the covers give the message that you're reading this just for the porn factor, when in fact you might actually be looking for great characters and a touching story. I don't have any real objection to porn, myself, but I think that you ought to be able to tell which is which :) That minimises disappointment and embarrassment all around!

Wulfila
November 24th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Well... My problem with "sexy" covers is that I often do not even find them really sexy, but only somewhat vulgar. I will frankly admit that, on occasion, a cover discouraged me from buying a book - or almost discouraged me, at least, if I wanted the book in question very badly. ;)

alexbeecroft
November 24th, 2007, 06:31 PM
Well... My problem with "sexy" covers is that I often do not even find them really sexy, but only somewhat vulgar. I will frankly admit that, on occasion, a cover discouraged me from buying a book - or almost discouraged me, at least, if I wanted the book in question very badly. ;)
Squee! How lovely to see you over here! Thank you :) And as you probably know, I agree with you. Though I must admit that several people have said they wanted to read mine on the strength of the cover alone - so it must be doing something for them! (OTOH I've seen much much worse covers out there! I suspect the 'I put them in a slipcase to read them' option is quite popular :) )

Boston1773
November 24th, 2007, 07:25 PM
I know my parents would freak if they knew I read m/m romance, so the covers do make me hesitant to buy them. I'll have to use a cover for it, though I'm of half a mind to make it look like a cover for an age of sail history book! They'd never open it that way.

Dani
November 24th, 2007, 10:07 PM
I think a lot of the covers give the message that you're reading this just for the porn factor, when in fact you might actually be looking for great characters and a touching story. I don't have any real objection to porn, myself, but I think that you ought to be able to tell which is which :) That minimises disappointment and embarrassment all around!
I agree with what you've said, but there are a lot of people that do have a problem with the books we here read. No matter what they end up looking down on what you read if it looks suggestive (even if they secretly read it at home). Oh well, I guess there will always be people out there that will be this way.

alexbeecroft
November 25th, 2007, 06:04 AM
I know my parents would freak if they knew I read m/m romance, so the covers do make me hesitant to buy them. I'll have to use a cover for it, though I'm of half a mind to make it look like a cover for an age of sail history book! They'd never open it that way.
Oh, no problem with an alternative cover for mine! I've already made one, which I've stuck on my site for free download. (I sympathize entirely with the problem!) I hope it does look like a worthy sea-story:

http://www.alexbeecroft.com/csdustcover3sm.jpg

When the time comes, you can find the big version on
http://www.alexbeecroft.com/otherfree.shtml

*Hugs* It's nice to know we think alike!

alexbeecroft
November 25th, 2007, 08:48 AM
I agree with what you've said, but there are a lot of people that do have a problem with the books we here read. No matter what they end up looking down on what you read if it looks suggestive (even if they secretly read it at home). Oh well, I guess there will always be people out there that will be this way.
Yes, I think there's all kinds of things going on with different people that lead them to look down on romance, erotic romance, and erotica all the same. I mean there's still a distrust of sexuality - particularly women's sexuality - in society. And then there's also the misogeny that says that romance is mainly a women's industry and therefore - by definition - can't be serious literature. We really haven't got a lot further than the days when George Elliot had to call herself George just to be taken seriously.

Boston1773
November 25th, 2007, 12:04 PM
Oh, no problem with an alternative cover for mine! I've already made one, which I've stuck on my site for free download. (I sympathize entirely with the problem!) I hope it does look like a worthy sea-story:

http://www.alexbeecroft.com/csdustcover3sm.jpg

When the time comes, you can find the big version on
http://www.alexbeecroft.com/otherfree.shtml

*Hugs* It's nice to know we think alike!

You know, I'd be far more likely to buy it with that cover! Even with het romance, I've found the standard 'bodice ripper' (what do we call m/m romance then? breeches ripper?) to look highly ridiculous, and I tended to look towards the more subdued covers anyway.

alexbeecroft
November 25th, 2007, 02:08 PM
You know, I'd be far more likely to buy it with that cover! Even with het romance, I've found the standard 'bodice ripper' (what do we call m/m romance then? breeches ripper?) to look highly ridiculous, and I tended to look towards the more subdued covers anyway.
*g* Thank you! I would too :) And it has the advantage of showing that the book is a historical, set in the Age of Sail, and that there will be some tall ship action in it. But I suppose it doesn't look like a romance any more.

I agree with you about the standard bodice ripper (and 'breeches ripper' is a fabulous term!). Not to mention that they rarely say anything about what is distinctive about a particular book.

hollie
November 25th, 2007, 04:22 PM
xmasreindeer I like the alternative cover alex but your right you can't tell its a romance.

CharmedGirl
November 25th, 2007, 08:14 PM
I like both covers but like Hollie said the alternative cover doesn't clue us in on the book being a romance.

alexbeecroft
November 26th, 2007, 05:28 AM
xmasreindeer I like the alternative cover alex but your right you can't tell its a romance.
Yes, I'm definitely not good enough to set myself up as a cover artist - this is just a copyright free Old Master with the book name on it.

What kind of a thing would you like to see which would be both tasteful enough to read on the train, but also say 'romance'?

alexbeecroft
November 26th, 2007, 05:32 AM
I like both covers but like Hollie said the alternative cover doesn't clue us in on the book being a romance.
Yes, it wasn't really intended as a replacement for the real cover, so much as a camoflage device for places where showing the real cover might be awkward ;)
What kind of thing do you think would be a nice compromise between the two? Something that suggested 'romance' without implying 'only being read for the sex scenes? Can you have it both ways, do you think?

Wulfila
November 27th, 2007, 10:20 AM
The alternative cover is perfect and conveys the atmosphere of the story's setting nicely (a very important thing - the lack of it is a further downside of the "naked people who could be anybody anywhere at any time in history" covers) and I will gladly print it out and use it once your book has arrived. Thank you!

alexbeecroft
November 27th, 2007, 01:02 PM
The alternative cover is perfect and conveys the atmosphere of the story's setting nicely (a very important thing - the lack of it is a further downside of the "naked people who could be anybody anywhere at any time in history" covers) and I will gladly print it out and use it once your book has arrived. Thank you!
Hee! Thanks :) Actually I was really lucky with this picture, as I found it on a site of free, out of copyright art, but it could easily be the scene in Hudson Bay just after Josh has blown up the Macedonian. It was really a great find!

I think it's truer to the spirit of the book. I'm really glad you agree! But it undoubtedly does have the disadvantage of not looking as though it's a romance. I hope the blurb, which I've copied onto the back cover, makes up for that!

*g* I'm really pleased to know that you like it. Do drop me a line if it doesn't fit and I'll resize it :) I wasn't 100% sure of the size of the book.

Thank you!

hollie
November 27th, 2007, 05:09 PM
xmasreindeer I think your right you can't have it both ways it either says romance or it doesn't if it does everyone will still think your reading it for the sexy bits

alexbeecroft
November 27th, 2007, 05:30 PM
xmasreindeer I think your right you can't have it both ways it either says romance or it doesn't if it does everyone will still think your reading it for the sexy bits
That makes me think of a whole new question for a different thread, Hollie! Cos what about romance writers who write love stories, but fade to black when it comes to the sexy bits? Should they have covers that say 'sizzling erotica inside' when actually they should say 'cutest thing you ever read'?

I mean, not all romance is about sex is it? I've always thought Jane Austen wrote romance, but you'd go a long way before you even found an exposed ankle in one of her books!

hollie
November 27th, 2007, 05:44 PM
xmasreindeer Good point Alex! but talking of Erotica Waterstones have got a new Erotica self its not something I ever thought to see in York

alexbeecroft
November 27th, 2007, 05:57 PM
xmasreindeer Good point Alex! but talking of Erotica Waterstones have got a new Erotica self its not something I ever thought to see in York
No way?! Wow! That's a staggerer - but well done them!

hollie
November 27th, 2007, 06:10 PM
xmasreindeer Yeh the other side of the shelf is paranormal romance so York is now worth visiting more often.

alexbeecroft
November 28th, 2007, 01:21 PM
xmasreindeer Yeh the other side of the shelf is paranormal romance so York is now worth visiting more often.
Wow, that is something. I'm going to have to make a careful search of all the bookshops in Cambridge again, cos it's hard to believe that a town with so many books wouldn't have even *one* romance section somewhere!

hollie
November 28th, 2007, 05:19 PM
xmasreindeer i would have thought so Cambridge is bigger than York but as city's go thats not hard

alexbeecroft
November 29th, 2007, 05:07 AM
xmasreindeer i would have thought so Cambridge is bigger than York but as city's go thats not hard
Heh, lots of toddling around to do with my promotional postcards saying 'will you please put my book in your shop?' I'm really not looking forward to that!

moretta
November 29th, 2007, 05:09 AM
Well, don't misunderstand me, but this thread is very funny for me. I'm from Spain, and now we've the same threads about covers, image of romantic literature, sex or not in romance. You could translate the thread and we can think that we're in the same country.

Anyway, for covers, I've a nice solution. I bougth leather covers with fairies, which I can use when I go out. But at home, with sons, it's more complicated.

alexbeecroft
November 29th, 2007, 05:49 AM
Well, don't misunderstand me, but this thread is very funny for me. I'm from Spain, and now we've the same threads about covers, image of romantic literature, sex or not in romance. You could translate the thread and we can think that we're in the same country.

Anyway, for covers, I've a nice solution. I bougth leather covers with fairies, which I can use when I go out. But at home, with sons, it's more complicated.

Hee! Thanks for commenting, Marisa! And yes, I expect they're the sort of issues that come up all the time about romance, wherever you live :) I'm sure it's just my own ignorance as a newby that makes it all seem such undiscovered territory for me!

I wonder if the publishers know that people are so embarrassed by some of the covers that they have to cover them up, though? Cos if I've already heard from so many people that the covers are a problem at home with their children, it must be quite a widespread problem.

I wonder if we can do anything about it, or if our worries are powerless against the fact that the sexier covers sell better?

moretta
November 29th, 2007, 06:03 AM
I'll try to explain myself but I apologize about my English. Here in Spain, I found once a book that I thought that I hadn't read it, but I'd done it, it was a different cover. The bookseller told me that the publishers were making an experiment, and they'd discovered that they sold more books with sexy covers. I think that, perhaps, you can identify them it there isn't a specific section.

In my case I've no kids and I'm not embarrassed about covers, so, really, I don't worry about them, but I understand the idea about kids. Now, in Spain, a big quantity of covers are only a woman, almost naked or naked. I don't like that kind of covers specifically.

Best regards

Marisa

Karenne
November 29th, 2007, 10:57 AM
Hey Moretta!

Really...I didn't know they did that, but it makes sense that they would. Trying to sell what would see. And no matter what the 'few' think....Sex always sells. I personally like a 'more' cover. Like the one with ships and the ocean Alex. But I may be in the minority.

I like to be able to take my books with me. To the Doctor's office, to choir practice (to read while I am waiting), or my kids events...while I wait and wait and wait (wink) So that is my main priority, but maybe my generation or group of demographics isn't what they are targeting with these covers.

Or maybe I am just old fashioned and my sense of what should be is not necessarily what the younger targetted group is. shrug..who knows.

(steps off my soap box)xmasreindeer

moretta
November 29th, 2007, 11:06 AM
Perhaps there's another explanation here in Spain. In USA (or any country where you speak English) you can buy a magazine like Romantic Times and you know about authors, books and so on; so, you can go to the bookshop looking for a book. In Spain you don't have a magazine like that, you have no information about new authors or new books. Besides, although you have romantic shelves in some bookshops, in other no, so you have to look for, and cover is a good sign.

If you have Internet you don't have that problem, but there're a lot of people who don't have it.

Best regards

Marisa

alexbeecroft
November 29th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I'll try to explain myself but I apologize about my English. Here in Spain, I found once a book that I thought that I hadn't read it, but I'd done it, it was a different cover. The bookseller told me that the publishers were making an experiment, and they'd discovered that they sold more books with sexy covers. I think that, perhaps, you can identify them it there isn't a specific section.

In my case I've no kids and I'm not embarrassed about covers, so, really, I don't worry about them, but I understand the idea about kids. Now, in Spain, a big quantity of covers are only a woman, almost naked or naked. I don't like that kind of covers specifically.

Best regards

Marisa

Yes, I remember in my youth that we used to call it exploitation, using women's bodies to sell things. Somehow people don't seem to think so any more, but I'm not quite sure why not. Like you, I don't like it either. And I think there might be a case for some of the covers of romances these days being exploitation of men - turning them into sex objects too. I suppose that's equality, at least!

alexbeecroft
November 29th, 2007, 11:54 AM
Hey Moretta!

Really...I didn't know they did that, but it makes sense that they would. Trying to sell what would see. And no matter what the 'few' think....Sex always sells. I personally like a 'more' cover. Like the one with ships and the ocean Alex. But I may be in the minority.

I like to be able to take my books with me. To the Doctor's office, to choir practice (to read while I am waiting), or my kids events...while I wait and wait and wait (wink) So that is my main priority, but maybe my generation or group of demographics isn't what they are targeting with these covers.

Or maybe I am just old fashioned and my sense of what should be is not necessarily what the younger targetted group is. shrug..who knows.

(steps off my soap box)xmasreindeer
Yay! I'm glad you like the shipwreck cover! I have to agree that you can't tell from the cover that it's a romance. It might be improved by an overlay of clasped hands or maybe even a kiss - but that proved to be beyond my photoshopping ability!

Something in the middle, which said 'Romance' but didn't necessarily say 'omg, hot sex!' would be ideal :)

Karenne
November 29th, 2007, 11:58 AM
nods...I agree with you on that!Santabags

alexbeecroft
November 29th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Perhaps there's another explanation here in Spain. In USA (or any country where you speak English) you can buy a magazine like Romantic Times and you know about authors, books and so on; so, you can go to the bookshop looking for a book. In Spain you don't have a magazine like that, you have no information about new authors or new books. Besides, although you have romantic shelves in some bookshops, in other no, so you have to look for, and cover is a good sign.

If you have Internet you don't have that problem, but there're a lot of people who don't have it.

Best regards

Marisa

I'm not sure we do have it a lot easier over here in the UK. Most of our bookshops don't have a romance section at all, and wouldn't stock the books published by small publishers which make up the bulk of the romance genre, even if they did.

I mean, I didn't even know this industry existed *at all* before March this year, when I accidentally stumbled across a recommendation of Lee Rowan's 'Ransom' on a friend's Live Journal. These books are not available on the shelves of British bookshops really at all.

OTOH, if they *are* available on the shelves of Spanish bookshops, and the covers are the thing that enables you to find them, then I can see that you do need distinctive covers which say 'this is a romance'. It's a very good point!

Dani
November 30th, 2007, 12:05 AM
And no matter what the 'few' think....Sex always sells. I personally like a 'more' cover. Like the one with ships and the ocean Alex. But I may be in the minority.

I like to be able to take my books with me. To the Doctor's office, to choir practice (to read while I am waiting), or my kids events...while I wait and wait and wait (wink) So that is my main priority, but maybe my generation or group of demographics isn't what they are targeting with these covers.

Or maybe I am just old fashioned and my sense of what should be is not necessarily what the younger targetted group is. shrug..who knows.

(steps off my soap box)xmasreindeer
Honey, if you're old fashioned then some am I because I feel the same way (though we're not by any means old and don't try telling me you are...LOL). Laugh it Up fuzball

Some of the books are great with the covers they have, but others definately go to far. I talk to a couple of cover artists and I have to say that most of the covers that I have seen done by them are very tastefully done. I think that they have a sence of what is sexy without making it look too overly sexual. :biggrin:

moretta
November 30th, 2007, 03:43 AM
OTOH, if they *are* available on the shelves of Spanish bookshops, and the covers are the thing that enables you to find them, then I can see that you do need distinctive covers which say 'this is a romance'. It's a very good point!

We don't have small publishers either. Two years ago you only could find two or three publishers, usually mixed with the other books. You have to know that they existed and you have to look for them. Because of this, when a publisher chose pink covers, it was very nice for me, I found them faster!

Now, in Spain, romance novel is a big deal, and we have about forty new books every month (perhaps in USA this is a nonsense, but two years ago I found a book every two months), so in big bookshops (not small one) you have romance shelves (with erotic, that's true ;) ) and perhaps you needn't the covers.

Best regards

Marisa

alexbeecroft
November 30th, 2007, 12:54 PM
We don't have small publishers either. Two years ago you only could find two or three publishers, usually mixed with the other books. You have to know that they existed and you have to look for them. Because of this, when a publisher chose pink covers, it was very nice for me, I found them faster!

Now, in Spain, romance novel is a big deal, and we have about forty new books every month (perhaps in USA this is a nonsense, but two years ago I found a book every two months), so in big bookshops (not small one) you have romance shelves (with erotic, that's true ;) ) and perhaps you needn't the covers.

Best regards

Marisa

*g* It's true that putting the novels in with other mainstream ones just makes it all but impossible to find any unless you already know the author. The same goes for GBLT books which, however much I feel they ought to be mainstream you simply can't find if they're mixed in with everything else.

The ideal world would probably be a marked romance section full of books with lovely covers! But that probably is asking a bit much ;)

Spain sounds like a good place to be for romance fiction then!

Patricia Bates
August 12th, 2008, 12:08 PM
I'm on the fence with this one. I like the covers that have no characters on them - such as Julie Garwoods stories. I look at it and it makes me wonder, which adds to the spice of reading it. Personally, I think they should do a double cover like some of the old bosum busters - a 'tame' scene and then wam you open it and you get the 'steamy' scene.

alexbeecroft
August 12th, 2008, 04:14 PM
I like the covers without the characters on too. I find that I generally prefer my own mental image of the characters to the person pictured on the cover anyway. (Neither of my lads in 'Captain's Surrender' really looks like the hunks on the cover in my mind.) But I do like the idea of a secret inside scene! How cool!

Kimberly
August 23rd, 2008, 02:10 PM
For me, it depends on the book! Sometimes, it's nice to see the characters, but other times it's more about using my imagination!
It really doesn't bother me taking my books into public! I have had people tell me that they will pray for my soul just by looking at a title of a book! I think what disturbs me more is the way people will judge you by what you read!

hollie
August 23rd, 2008, 02:17 PM
Kimberly a lot of people - myself included arn't bothered what strangers on the bus or at the doctors office think, but we don't want our kids seeing overly sexual or surgestive covers

Kimberly
August 23rd, 2008, 02:32 PM
I understand that, Hollie! Believe me, I do! My problem is more with people who look at the cover (non-sexual) and simply judge. It's the whole judging a book by its cover thing! I get not wanting kids exposed to anything sexual! If I take a paperback with a suggestive cover into public, I will carefully fold the cover back. Most of my hardcovers are pretty neutral. I was reading a werewolf book with a wolf on the cover when I was condemned in the chiropractor's office!

hollie
August 23rd, 2008, 04:39 PM
well thats just wrong you can't judge people by what the read.

In one of the bookshops in York the horror section (which includes anything with a vampire were etc) was next to the 'romance' section. I was buying LKH's Merry Gentry books and these two little old ladies lectured me on how horror books are bad for you and I needed to get a good romance to keep my marriage healthy. Well the smurf walk away laughing and I found myself having to explain about paranormal romance to 2 woman older than my nan

Kimberly
August 23rd, 2008, 04:59 PM
I'm glad that my Smurf isn't the only one who walks away laughing! When a woman in a bookstore tried quoting the Bible to me (I was in the paranormal/ wicca section), my husband (in an Ozzy Osbourne t-shirt) walked away laughing and just left me to defend myself!

MSEReads
August 23rd, 2008, 06:34 PM
Interesting Q. As a reader, I prefer subtle covers - sensual is okay but graphic is unnecessary. I do read books that I might not flash in front of my church friends but they would see them on my bookshelves at home - along with christian lit too! I read all sorts of genres.

CharmedGirl
August 24th, 2008, 10:28 PM
I love crime books, not much into historical books at all but paranormal and romance books would have to be my favourite.

alexbeecroft
August 25th, 2008, 05:47 AM
I live in the UK and I think that there's a noticeably different style to our bookcovers in general from the editions that come out in the USA. We seem more reluctant to try and depict the characters from the book - we tend to have scenery and mist and so on ;) So I dare say that part of my reaction is unfamiliarity with the broader range of bookcovers that these fit into.

hollie
August 25th, 2008, 06:59 AM
Thats probably part of my promblem as well Alex we just don't see many graffic covers

rgraham666
August 25th, 2008, 07:40 AM
I'm glad that my Smurf isn't the only one who walks away laughing! When a woman in a bookstore tried quoting the Bible to me (I was in the paranormal/ wicca section), my husband (in an Ozzy Osbourne t-shirt) walked away laughing and just left me to defend myself!
I'd just smile evilly (I have fangs) and say, "My plan is working then."
:devil:

As far as covers go, I don't think sexy and subtle are mutually exclusive. I love a cover that just 'suggests'. :)

hollie
August 25th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I'd just smile evilly (I have fangs) and say, "My plan is working then."
:devil:

As far as covers go, I don't think sexy and subtle are mutually exclusive. I love a cover that just 'suggests'. :)

Oh I hope you and The Smurf never meet (he's Rob as well) you could be absolute murder together

alexbeecroft
August 26th, 2008, 06:21 AM
I've been searching back through my bookmarks to see if I could find the blog post I once saw comparing the US and UK editions of various books. It was very interesting, and there was a noticeable difference in style. I couldn't find it again though, unfortunately, but I did find this one in passing :)

http://judgeabook.blogspot.com/

hollie
August 26th, 2008, 06:27 AM
Alex if you look on shelfari at the book covers on there most of them are different from the covers we get and I know most romances are different ours are alot more subtle

Kimberly
August 26th, 2008, 01:21 PM
I like the way you think, Rob! Evil minds are dangerous things!

Tara S Nichols
August 26th, 2008, 06:28 PM
I do but then again I don't read outside my home much anymore. When I do I curl the cover around the front. I don't want to be responsible for heart attacks.

alexbeecroft
August 27th, 2008, 05:52 AM
LOL! I admit that I've had a hard time being able to read 'My Fair Captain' at home because of the cover and my two young daughters (not to mention my husband). I can see I'm going to have to make some fabric dustcovers, or even buy one of those book-bag things which people use for their Bibles ;)

hollie
August 27th, 2008, 06:40 AM
Thats a good idea Bouncy Icon Smilie

Dani
August 27th, 2008, 08:32 PM
LOL! I admit that I've had a hard time being able to read 'My Fair Captain' at home because of the cover and my two young daughters (not to mention my husband). I can see I'm going to have to make some fabric dustcovers, or even buy one of those book-bag things which people use for their Bibles ;)
I have one of those book-bag things. I don't think mine was made for a bible since I found it at Barnes and Nobles, but it might have been. I used it to carry Memnoch the Devil with me everywhere because I didn't want to ruin it. :biggrin:

Catherine Bybee
August 28th, 2008, 12:20 AM
If you judged a woman by the romance novel, then you have a woman who loves "Happily ever after." No matter how they get there... I love a happy ending.

If you judge a person on their Steven King novel then they are what? "Twisted and psycho?"

Thriller novel = " A killer wanna be?"

Anne Rice = "vampries are fine as long as their not having sex?"

Yeah, I keep my really erotic covers from my kids, their young... that's my job... I don't let them read playboy either... but to read a novel with a gun plastered on the front with a knife dripping with blood is just as suggestive if you ask me.

Everyday life can be a real pain... i'm an ER nurse, I can say that with many painful days to back it up... romance is escape... Sexy covers give you an image of escape and fantasy... No, some are not for everyone, but if the cover has a sexy couple on the front then you know what you're reading...

My cousin picked up a novel, thinking it was a historic satire, and found herself knee deep in a menage... She freaked and gave it to me. Glad she had a person to hand it off to, but my point is the cover and blurb wasn't a reflection of the story, or lack of. It was a lie. As a reader she felt cheated. If the cover sported a true reflection of the book, perhaps she wouldn't have bought it... and perhaps many others would.. Remember... Romance, especailly erotic romance, is the #1 selling genre out there...
Sex, my dear coffee time friends, sells. And the publishers know it.

Dani
August 28th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Now that's a post that I can agree on. Although, I have to say that I love Anne Rice and her vamps. Her covers are interesting, hardly racy at all. I don't, however, like the kinds you described with the bloody knife on them. On the other hand, if the covers don't convey the story then I may not pick it up and may end up missing a great read because of it.

alexbeecroft
August 28th, 2008, 12:36 PM
:) I've got to admit that I've only ever seen them used for Bibles, but then I've only ever seen them stocked at Christian bookshops. LOL! I wonder if I've been assuming that people are carrying Bibles when in fact they too were secretly reading something racier!

Dani
August 28th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Well, you read what I put in mine. Now, if that isn't a shock to the system considering that it's used more for bibles, then I don't know what is. LOL!

alexbeecroft
August 28th, 2008, 12:47 PM
If you judged a woman by the romance novel, then you have a woman who loves "Happily ever after." No matter how they get there... I love a happy ending.

If you judge a person on their Steven King novel then they are what? "Twisted and psycho?"

Thriller novel = " A killer wanna be?"

Anne Rice = "vampries are fine as long as their not having sex?"

Yeah, I keep my really erotic covers from my kids, their young... that's my job... I don't let them read playboy either... but to read a novel with a gun plastered on the front with a knife dripping with blood is just as suggestive if you ask me.

Everyday life can be a real pain... i'm an ER nurse, I can say that with many painful days to back it up... romance is escape... Sexy covers give you an image of escape and fantasy... No, some are not for everyone, but if the cover has a sexy couple on the front then you know what you're reading...

My cousin picked up a novel, thinking it was a historic satire, and found herself knee deep in a menage... She freaked and gave it to me. Glad she had a person to hand it off to, but my point is the cover and blurb wasn't a reflection of the story, or lack of. It was a lie. As a reader she felt cheated. If the cover sported a true reflection of the book, perhaps she wouldn't have bought it... and perhaps many others would.. Remember... Romance, especailly erotic romance, is the #1 selling genre out there...
Sex, my dear coffee time friends, sells. And the publishers know it.

I know that sex sells, but if the book has very little sex in it, then a sexy cover is misguiding and sets up the sort of disappointment (in reverse) that your cousin felt. I mean, I pretty much have an erotica cover, for a story which, IMO, is a sweet romance - so readers who are looking for a m/m which is heavy on romance but not so heavy on the sex are likely to go straight past it.

I'm totally with you that the cover should give the reader an accurate idea of what to expect inside, but in a way that's my problem. I'm all for showing that it's a romance and there will be a happy ending, but in my own case I feel something that de-emphasized the sex would be be a truer reflection of the story.

alexbeecroft
August 28th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Well, you read what I put in mine. Now, if that isn't a shock to the system considering that it's used more for bibles, then I don't know what is. LOL!

*g* Its rather wonderful! :)

Catherine Bybee
August 28th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Now that's a post that I can agree on. Although, I have to say that I love Anne Rice and her vamps. Her covers are interesting, hardly racy at all. I don't, however, like the kinds you described with the bloody knife on them. On the other hand, if the covers don't convey the story then I may not pick it up and may end up missing a great read because of it.


Don't get me wrong, Dani. I love Anne Rice's novels as well. And I couldn't even tell you what the covers of her books look like... but I think you understood my point.

Dani
August 28th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Don't get me wrong, Dani. I love Anne Rice's novels as well. And I couldn't even tell you what the covers of her books look like... but I think you understood my point.
Oh yeah, I understood it. If you want to see some of Anne's covers to her books you can go to my Shelfari page and check them out on my shelf. They should be on this page link.

http://www.shelfari.com/dani274/shelf#firstBook=80&list=4&sort=author (http://www.shelfari.com/dani274/shelf#firstBook=80&list=4&sort=author)